Introducing Half Betty

Andrea Rathborne 00:08
This is it? Hi, hi. So we are here today to launch into this amazing experience of bringing to life the half Betty podcast. This is our very first episode. There's been so much that has gone into this moment, and for me, it's a wild experience, but I am so thrilled to be sitting here with all of you and you, but what you're gonna notice is that I'm also probably a little bit nervous, and that's okay, because nerves are good. They serve us. My name is Andrea Rathbone, and I am the founder and I am the host of your half Betty podcast. You this box, the story of half Betty. We're going to share a little bit more about that, but it's really not about me, or even in so many ways. It's not about the name of the podcast. It is about all of you. So half Betty describes a community. It describes a place where women in their mid lives can come together and create a connection, a place where they know that they are amongst others that are in the exact same place in their life. And it was born of this moment for me also now in my mid life, where I recognized how many women in this time of our lives experience some of the largest catalysts, challenges, moments of self awareness, experiences that they've never had before. So first times, it's a beautiful in so many ways, coming of age, but in your mid life, not a coming of age when you're a teenager, which is what we most often associate coming of age with. There is beauty in those youthful years, of course, but there's beauty in the midlife, and I don't know that it feels like that really has ever had its place. And I don't know that women have a place where they feel like it's a coming of age for them, and it really, truly is. So this podcast, this space, this community, is going to be for all of the women who are moving through that midlife time launching into their second scene, it's a new opportunity to craft a narrative for what is ahead, with excitement and with passion and with all of our own self awareness, all the things we've done that we've now taken from and planted inside and now can use as part of our strength as we move forward. This is a conversation. This is not a I'm talking at you. We're talking to you. This is we are in this together. We are in a conversation. And I cannot wait to hear from every single one of our half buddies out there. And today we're going to start it off by talking to a dear friend and a person that came into my life fairly recently, and we're going to introduce Krista Gruen. Krista is a amazing wrangler of stories, and that's what Krista is really amazing at but that doesn't even touch on it, because, as a person who is also in her mid life, she is navigating all the things that we're going to talk about, and we're going to get her to talk about it a little bit more. So with that, I'd really love to introduce my friend, producer for half Betty a partner in this work that we're doing together. Krista Gruen, wow.

Krista Gruen 04:26
Thank you, Andrea. I am also so thrilled to be here with you and our half Betty community, and they don't even know it's about to happen. We don't even know what's about to happen, but I'm so excited to be on this journey with you and all of our half Bettys out there, I think it's important to take this opportunity to turn it back to you and share with us how half Betty came to be. It's such an interesting name, and there's a story behind that. As you said, I'm a storyteller, and I want to hear all the story. Stories, and I love hearing the beginnings. Tell me more about that. Yeah.

Andrea Rathborne 05:04
So two years ago, 2022 January 17, was a big day for me. It was my 50th birthday, so in a world that was still navigating the throes of what we all know happened, and that is a global pandemic. You know, I was hit all at once with what was going on in the world around us, but also this really monumental time, this this age, that all of a sudden I was that felt so strange and odd to say it almost didn't even want to come out of my mouth, because it just felt so uncomfortable. You know, I thought about that for a while. Why was it uncomfortable? And I think it's because there was a sense that there was a narrative in society around what 50 means, particularly for women. And I thought, Gosh, it's wild to be 50, but I want to really think about how it could be not what society says it is, but something a little different. And I think maybe that's this little baby rebel that's inside of me that comes out every once in a while. And so fast forward about a week, and I was taken to Whistler by my family, my husband, and the rest of my closest of friend group, who are really those friends that you choose as your family, all arrived to throw a full celebration for my birthday, and What started to unfold was picked up on by what I had shared with this group of friends around my actual birth date and the woman that I share that birth date with, who also happens to be somebody that all my life, I have really cherished for who she is, and that is Betty White. Betty White and I share the same birth date, but when Betty would have turned 100 I was turning 50, half Betty's age. As I started to really think about Betty and our shared birthdays, what I came to recognize is that Betty did more in her life from 50 to 100 than even what she did between when she was born and 50. And all of a sudden, I was even more inspired by the idea that 50 marks a beginning, and Betty White is somebody who really showed the world that that's the case. So now, as we're at this place in Whistler and all the friends are there. Everything now was themed to half Betty I was served a half Betty cocktail. We had a half Betty show. There was a half Betty dinner menu that was set. And so really that was the beginning of what, for me, felt like this seed of this needs to be more than for me, this needs to be for all of us, all women who are in this place. And it doesn't have to be 50, but it does resonate with women who are in that midlife. So the age is not critical. It's more that in that time, there are shared experiences that women out there will all recognize in one another. But yet, there's not this place where women are talking about those things, where women can come to and they can say, oh my gosh, that happens to me all the time. What do you do about that? How did you find something that was working for your hormonal imbalances, or the fact that you can't remember a word when you're trying to speak, or you know the fact that your children are leaving home after 21 years and all of a sudden it's about you again, and you don't know who you are and changes in your career, or aging parents, or loss of family and parents, and the list goes on, you know. So I really believe that that was part of this origin story of the name for what this is, the name of this community. And if we fast forward now two years from there, this year 2024 I was on the edge of recognizing that my own two daughters would be leaving home. Makes me emotional. Yeah, that's okay. So. So in January of this year, knowing that they would be leaving, I knew that I needed to start thinking about what I would be putting myself into, what would I be nurturing now and as things sometimes work out when we are open to it, and when we are there kind of present LinkedIn, I'm going to do a shout out for LinkedIn. LinkedIn served up,

Krista Gruen 10:30
maybe they'll be a sponsor.

Andrea Rathborne 10:33
LinkedIn served up a contest, a contest by a local podcast audio company called jar audio, this contest was positioned on my computer screen as contest for getting women into podcasting. And so I thought to myself, gosh, I have a little tiny idea. It's already got a name. It's called half Betty. I don't really know how to do this. I have no idea how to create a pitch for this, but I'm going to just write. And I sent that pitch in, and then I forgot about it because I think I was a little bit scared that it wasn't going to be good enough. It wasn't going to work. What was who was I kidding? I've never done a podcast. I don't know how to do this, so I put it out of my mind, and I concentrated on the last number of months with my girls at home. And about three months after I had sent in that pitch that I intentionally forgot about, I got an email I will never forget the opening line, because it said, cue the applause and tears. And I thought, What is going on? And then it said, half Betty has won the jar audio women in podcasting contest. And I immediately, kind of closed my computer a bit nervous and scared and all of a sudden feeling like I don't know how I'm supposed to feel. And then I reopened it and re read it because I wasn't quite sure it was real. I asked AI. I was like, GPT, how do you do a podcast? I did all the things. And then I thought, Gosh, you're being ridiculous. You can do this because you've already done it. You've already highlighted what it is that you want to do, and all it is is about talking to women and hearing their stories and pulling them together and creating a space for a community and for us to highlight these stories to the world. I can do this.

Krista Gruen 12:28
That is so beautiful. And you told that story so well. And I remember when you got that email, I was sitting beside you, and you said, Krista, I have this email. They need some more information from me. And I'm like, Ah, and I'm like, that's really good. Wait, what? Who is this? Back up, and you told me what you had done, and I was instantly attracted to the idea and the story and launching into helping you in whatever way I could.

Andrea Rathborne 12:58
And for that, I'm so grateful because, as we're talking about, this time of life is so fraught with so much that is out of my control. So I'm so grateful for that anchor. I'm grateful for your words of You, know, encouragement and pride in what I have done. And I really do appreciate that. So thank you.

Krista Gruen 13:29
Okay, so where do we go from here?

Andrea Rathborne 13:31
That's such a fun question. Where we would like to go from here is to really now turn this into learning more about you and your story, and not just your story, but you know who Krista is and your unique story. I think that's what's important, is that while we all can find shared or common ground, we are still all uniquely having our own experiences. So what I'm going to ask of you, Krista, is, if you can use and you can break the rules, I already told you that I've got a baby rebel going on, so if you also have that same baby rebel, you can jump in and break the rules. But I'm going to ask you to use five words. So if you do six, you're good. But I'm going to ask you to do or to share five words that you feel really describes who Krista is, or how you show up in this world. Use five words to help me understand who you are.

Krista Gruen 14:28
Okay, five words. First one would be passionate, caring. Loving is kind of caring too, but I'm gonna say that one helpful and creative.

Andrea Rathborne 14:41
Beautiful. And you did five, I did five. Maybe all five really can be so beautifully tied together, because all of them lend themselves to what I hear is somebody who just deeply, deeply cares and shows up in the world with an energy of. Compassion, kindness, generosity of spirit, because those would be very similar words that I would use to describe the Krista that I know. Can you take me back a little bit in your life story? So tell me a little bit of where you're from and then, and then lead us into this path of what you've been doing in your life that has lit you up and that has offered you, you know, that space to pour your beautiful, loving, caring, creative soul into tell us a little bit of that story.

Krista Gruen 15:32
So I'm going to jump into when I was 19, because I feel like that was a huge, pivotal moment in my life. I grew up as a dancer, and when I was 19, I went off and started working as a dancer on cruise ships. So travel was something I did very limitedly. I really didn't travel a lot. I would go camping with my family. We would, you know, maybe go to California once in a while, but I really hadn't traveled, and I really I was the baby of the family. You know, I'm the youngest of four, and I think I was just really protected and cared for very, very well. So here I am, 19. I booked my first cruise ship. I arrived in Florida at like midnight. I had to organize myself to get on a shuttle and go from, you know, Miami to Fort Lauderdale, and arrive at this hotel and creep into this room, and I knew that I had a roommate who was, like the lead singer of the show, and that's kind of how I started this, like, new life for myself, and like, really carving out this new person I had a chance to be who I wanted to be, who I wanted to explore. Had to do my laundry on my own, like all these things, you know. And it turned out to be seven years of working on cruise ships, off and on. Wow. Started as a dancer, then I was a singer dancer, and got to travel the world and do what I loved to do. Summer in there, I got married. I was 22 when I got married the first time, and we were married for eight years. Halfway in between that marriage, he had an affair, and I didn't know how to navigate that. I stuck around. We went to counseling, we tried to figure it out. And in the end, I realized that I didn't want to stay and I would have flashbacks to, like, talking to my Nan, and, you know, before I got married, and talking to my mom, and my mom was my parents were so, like, worried, and they didn't want me to get married at 22 and now, being 47 I'm like, Oh yeah, I would have had the same conversation for sure, but you know, like realizing that, like, I didn't have the tools to be in that kind of a committed relationship. We had said we're just gonna work it out. Just because we don't know anybody who's done it before doesn't mean we can't do it. But when the affair happened and we started going to counseling quite quickly, I was like, I think we're done here. And so I moved in with my aunt and my cousin in this house. And I call it like my detox year, because I really took about a year. I went traveling for the first time by myself, just me. I went to Australia and New Zealand at 30 which, like everybody did when they were, like, fresh out of high school, or, like, you know, maybe a year after they went to college. But no, I never went to university and never went to college. I literally just started on cruise ships, and that was, like, my college years, and so I just took a year to kind of get back to me. It wasn't purposeful, like I didn't know what I was doing at the time. It just kind of evolved and I had a really beautiful safe space with my aunt. And you know, my mom would come over from Victoria and my sister, and you know, my cousin was living upstairs, and it just felt so amazing to be surrounded by family. And at 30, so many things are going on. So my 20s were like, party, wild, travel, fun. My 30s were a little bit more thoughtful in where I wanted to go, and I had a chance to kind of reset, and I started looking at all the things that I love to do, like singing and dancing, but I had kind of lost my passion a little bit. And what I did pick up was a passion for acting and for exploring scenes and and character study. And so I got into some classes, and that was amazing. And it also really helped me with my confidence. My voice changed during that time. It went from a, you know, this, everything was like a question, and I just came up here with every every sentence that I said, and got really into my body, and I started to really understand what I wanted, what it didn't want. And then I started doing some background in film and TV. So I was a background performer that quickly led me into being a stand in. And so a stand in, you're hard because you look very similar to the person, the actor that you're standing in for, right? So. And you help the camera and lighting department and the DP come together and set up the shots that that you're about to film. And so that was my job for like, seven years. I did three different series. I worked on a sci fi series, and then I worked on two sitcoms, which were really rare in Vancouver, kids sitcoms. That was a blast. And I loved that job because I was able to kind of bring in my theater experience into the stand in, because the stand in actually doesn't say any lines. You just move through the motions that the actor was doing. And through that process, I realized that I wanted more, and I wanted to create, and there was like ideas in my head and being surrounded by like people of like mind, yeah, I started to hear things. I started to get wind of projects that people were doing. And I was like, I want, I want to do something. I want to and so, yeah, it just, it just kind of began, and I think the first thing I did was a play, and I quickly realized that I'm gonna have to organize this. And that's kind of what I thought it was like a manager, organizer kind of thing. And I realized at the end of it that, oh, I was producing that play. I was also acting in the play, I love it. And then it led to a web series, which was just super gorilla, like, no permits, no nothing. Like, really gritty, like, it was something learned a whole bunch. And then I started creating my own work. And so I did a couple short films, I did a music video. And when I say I did, I produced. And again, I didn't wake up one morning and just say to myself, I want to be a producer. I just started doing it because I wanted to take action, and I wanted to build something for me and use my creativity to help build these cool worlds. And then I ended up talking to a friend of mine who called me, and he was like, I'm looking to hire this actor, and I know you've worked with him before. Could you tell me a little bit about him? And I was like, Yeah, sure, but what are you doing? And he was like, I want to feature and I, you know, I'm gonna direct it, and, yeah, I got some money and we're gonna do it. And I was like, I wanna be involved in that. I'm like, a feature film. I'm like, I think I'm ready to help you. I'm like, I'll get you coffee. Like, what can I do? And he's like, no, no, here's what we're gonna do. You're gonna read the script if it really calls to you, and that's something that you're drawn to, then call me back. So I did. It was amazing, and I didn't go get him coffee. I ended up being a co producer on the feature, and I learned so much. We shot a feature film in 12 days, which is absolute insanity, but he made it work, and he let me at the end of the day, he made me feel so empowered and so welcomed and heard and encouraged me to keep going. And so we still have regular maybe every quarter, we'll get together, we'll go for coffee, and we'll share knowledge and share support for each other now too, which is a beautiful thing that it's turned into.

Andrea Rathborne 23:00
A mutual mentorship in a way.

Krista Gruen 23:02
Yeah, and you know, you speak about mentorship too, and it's interesting the people that come into your life through mentorship, men, women, older, younger. You know, mentorship can look very different in so many different ways. You know, it shows absolutely but basically at the end, he's like, so did I ruin your whole experience of like, making a feature film, I was like, No, I want to do this again, definitely. And so fast forward to a friend of mine who I saw her at a party, and she tracked me down, and she was like, Hey, I'm doing this program, and I'm writing this feature, and I think you should produce it. She's like, Are you back at it now? Because that by then, I had remarried, had twin boys. They were about three and a half, and I was like, Yeah, you know what? 2020? Is going to be my year. That's going to be my year. We're going to do some really awesome things. Amazing. Ironically, it actually was my year. It actually propelled my confidence. My career as a producer, all the things that I wanted to do, the stories that I wanted to share, I got into a producer's lab that was six months long. I had a mentor, and for the first time, like a real carved out mentor that was assigned to me, you know, not somebody who I had met or had leaned on throughout the way, specifically somebody who was assigned for me and helped me move through the scrap, navigate, yeah, and really try to figure out the story the point. What are we trying to say with this film? And then as a producer, learning how to take those notes and bring them back to the writer, director, who's also the producer, and say, Look, these are my thoughts. These are my feelings. Can we work together to figure out how we can change and adapt the story so we can really, like, make it the best it can be. And that part to me, that creative collaboration is like my jam. I love helping people. People. I love connecting people. I love taking this idea and slowly, like evolving it into this beautiful thing where people are attracted to it, but at the same time, I didn't know. I'd never been a lead producer on a feature film before, so we had very open, honest communication. You know, it started with, look, I'm gonna make some mistakes. We're gonna trip and fall, but we're gonna pick each other up, and we just have to be incredibly honest. And if that means taking a day to just step aside and step away, then that's okay. But what I've learned over the years, after a lot of counseling in my early 20s is like, you've got to be honest, and you've got to figure out a way to communicate that honesty. You don't have to be precious about it, but you do have to be kind and make sure that you know business relationships, whatever, wherever you're moving through life. You have to be honest with people, and it just it saves time and energy in the end. And I think that was probably the most beautiful lesson I learned from that feature film. There was a lot of stress and a lot of late nights, but it was the most beautiful thing I've ever done. I am so proud of it. I am so looking forward to doing more, and you trusting me to come alongside of you and help grow half Betty in our community and the women that are gonna you know come into our world, is so exciting.

Andrea Rathborne 26:37
I can feel your excitement, and what a powerful and honest story you've just shared. There are so many pieces that I personally feel I can relate to, that that's something that I'm familiar with, or that moment that she just shared totally gave me goosebumps, because I think that there's something in it that I feel is familiar, that, to me, is why, and you just said it so beautifully. We're here to pull these stories out of people and then share them so that others can feel that connection and can feel that place of being understood and to know that their experience is though unique, they're not alone.

Krista Gruen 27:22
That's a big thing for me. And also, like, I've used the word before, wanting to feel normal.

Andrea Rathborne 27:28
I remember you've said that, yeah, especially, like,

Krista Gruen 27:30
So for my second marriage, we had a hard time, you know, getting pregnant, and it was really, really challenging. And that's a whole other topic I'd love to explore with, I guess, absolutely in the future, because, like, I didn't end up having my boys until I was 39 right? But that urge and that need to feel normal was, like, really strange, like, I just felt alone. I felt like nobody else was out there that was similar to me, and I think it was because I wasn't talking to women, I wasn't being open. And I didn't feel like any other women wanted to be open with me. Got it? And so this platform, whatever this is going to turn into be, I'm hoping, and I know you are too, is hoping to be this, like, safe space for people to 100% be open, up open, and honestly, to really have these, like, in depth conversations about what's happening, but then also, like, what are some solutions? What are some things that we can do, or things that are working for you? Maybe we can try it. Maybe they don't work for us. That's right. We can listen and move through them together, really, as a community.

Andrea Rathborne 28:33
I love that. You've told your story up to almost present day, really? Can you tell me a little bit more about how you feel connected to what we're doing here, which is really honing in on that midlife time of our lives, which we fast forward to where you are now, and you're 47 years old, and you've got eight year old twin boys, and you've wrapped this amazing feature film, and you haven't shared this, but I will, because you're so amazing, but you're now award winning producer of a feature film. Oh yeah, that happened. That happened as well. Can you tell me more about how or why you feel connected to this topic of midlife.

Krista Gruen 29:28
I think that being 47 I'm just a baby in this midlife category that we're talking about. I want to learn as much as I can, and I've never wanted to learn more than I do now, in this time in my life, I'm learning from my children, yeah, they're teaching me a ton of things. I've been looking at my sister, you know, and she's going through perimenopause, and she's sharing these things like she's never shared before. So like, I'm thinking about that, I'm looking at my mom, and I'm looking at, you know, the ways in which she's changed. Jing, and the ways in which we have this very open, honest communication going, and I'm so grateful for it, and seeing the changes that she's going through or has been through, you know, even just hearing the story of her life and how far she's come, and all the things that she's accomplished but struggled through to get to where she is, you know. And I'm also looking at my husband's parents, and I'm looking at where they are in their lives and how their health, you know, the current state of their health. And I'm at this point where I'm like, I'm really excited to finally, like, move into me. And then I'm like, her parents, like, my dad passed away when I was 22 like four days after my first wedding, my first marriage, and it was, it was, it definitely, like derailed me. But at the same time, there was no one else really like I was living at home. There was no one else really that I that could kind of like take care, in quotes of my mom and so, kind of, from that moment, I have felt like we had to be in it together. We had to help each other kind of navigate, you know, the future. And you know, since then, she's been married again, and I've been married again. And, you know, we've gone through these things that. And I look at her life now and I'm like, oh, what? What happens now with her? Yeah, how can I be there for her? How can I show up for her? Because she has shown up for me enormously, but also it's a really interesting state for me right now. It's like, I want to spread my wings even further, and I want to go places, and I want to take my kids to Japan and, like, do all these things, or maybe move to Hawaii for a little bit. Or, you know, where can we go and can we, can we, can we go somewhere? Can we go somewhere for, like, a year? But then, what does that mean for our parents? Right? Being so far away from that, it's a real contrast in my feelings and my emotions, of like, where I move forward to now, because I'm very conscious of the things that are changing in their lives, and I don't know how to navigate that.

Andrea Rathborne 32:08
Yeah, lately, it's interesting, you know, if we go back to the five words that you shared at the very beginning, and we recognize that those are really ultimately about nurturing, caring for and making sure that people are okay. There's a phrase that's being coined, but the sandwich generation. So we find ourselves often in the place that you've described in your story, which is you're caring for your own family, and you're thinking about and making sure that your mom, your husband's parents, that they're also Okay, and so ultimately, you are a center of care. Fortunately, that is also what you love and what you feel that you are good at, and you know where your kind of strength is. Do you think also that that is both the beauty of often being women and also sometimes the biggest challenge, Oh, for sure, particularly in this time of our lives, where we're finding ourselves between those two worlds of children and aging parents who need us 100% health is a real thing always throughout our lives, but certainly, as we see folks enter into those 70s, 80s, 90s, we recognize that health is top of mind and it's it's something that is very real and very every day. So you have described, and we've talked about being in the middle of that, so I think that's a really important and very real aspect of being at this age, being in this half Betty time of our lives. And I'm gonna like, lose that–

Krista Gruen 33:53
Yes, I can't wait for that to like, just that everyone to like, coin that phrase. Like, I'm just so excited!

Andrea Rathborne 33:59
Half -Betty time of our lives. I you know where I would love to like pull that is, if you are now picturing Krista at, you know, 75 or at 8085 what would that 85 year old Krista say to you in what you're currently experiencing, where you are in your life, and what would she want you to know?

Krista Gruen 34:26
Well, first of all, I hope I'm living a fabulous, like, full, awesome, vibrant life. You're gonna create that. So I'm looking forward to that. I would tell my 47 year old self to do that thing and stop letting fear get in the way, because it can control a lot of my decisions, and it can freeze. It can really, like, make me just stop. And not do anything, because I get overwhelmed. And I think that if I could let that go, that'd be a beautiful thing, because now I have the confidence. I remember when I was really young, my mom would be like, I wish I could give you confidence. Like, she's like, you have all the things, like, if you just had the confidence, I can see all the things that you're capable of doing. I can see you know what you would become, or what you know, and she didn't want to take away from what I was doing. But like, that confidence was such a thing that you you can't give that to somebody. You can't just, like, buy it. There's nothing you can do. You have to earn it. You have to move through it. You have to, like, get it. But I have the confidence now. So that's the first thing, and the fear is the next thing. So that's what I'm currently, like, working on right now. So hopefully that's my baby. Like, I'll just be, like, climbing mountains and doing wonderful things, like literally climbing mountains. I don't even know.

Andrea Rathborne 35:52
I think you should climb mountains. And isn't that amazing? That 85 year old Krista would tell you that thing?

Krista Gruen 35:58
Yeah,there you go. We're gonna play that back one day.

Andrea Rathborne 36:00
Really, she is really clever, this 85 year old Krista, and she's talking to another really clever, 47 year old Krista.

Krista Gruen 36:08
Thank you.

Andrea Rathborne 36:09
And I really believe that these conversations are just starting. So you know, today we've, we've had the opportunity to introduce what this is all about, what half Betty is meant to be, how everybody's going to contribute to it, and how we're going to build it together. And you've been so generous in sharing your story.

Krista Gruen 36:32
I feel like I just touched on That's right. Yeah, there's just so much. There's so much, so much to share and to tell and to Yeah, it's exciting.

Andrea Rathborne 36:43
It is exciting.

Krista Gruen 36:43
Yeah,

Andrea Rathborne 36:44
You've basically been this beautiful starting place. And often what I find personally is the starting is the hardest part. We did it. We just did it, and it was scary, but we did it, yeah, and you were here to be able to help initiate that first step. So Thank you Krista for being here today and for being part of this wonderful journey. But thank you all you listeners out there, if that is five, if that is 15, if that is 120 thank every single one of you. And all I'm looking forward to now is, let's get this going. Let's keep this momentum and build this community. Build half Betty and get your stories here and you know, shared with everybody. So we will wrap this wonderful day, this wonderful moment, and we will say thank you for joining us for this first half Betty episode. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at half Betty. Please tell your friends.

Krista Gruen 37:55
Tell your friends, pull them all in. We want all the half Bettys right by our side.

Andrea Rathborne 37:59
We do.

Krista Gruen 38:00
Instagram, half Betty.

Andrea Rathborne 38:02
Half Betty.

Krista Gruen 38:02
Send us a DM.

Andrea Rathborne 38:03
Hi. I'm Andrea Rathbone, founder and host of half Betty, a podcast that creates the space for women their stories, legacy and life's second scene.

Krista Gruen 38:18
Good. That's it. We're done. Wrap.

Andrea Rathborne 38:20
That's a wrap! .

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